I get really frustrated when I see things like this. Why is it that the banks can sit back and do nothing, and put all of the blame on the customer!?!?! When do the banks have to stand up and say "There are things we could have done to stop this, so we are liable also."
Monday, October 18, 2010
Wire Transers
I get really frustrated when I see things like this. Why is it that the banks can sit back and do nothing, and put all of the blame on the customer!?!?! When do the banks have to stand up and say "There are things we could have done to stop this, so we are liable also."
Saturday, October 16, 2010
Eight years . . .
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
Scams and Trying to Educate People
To find out a check’s status, call your bank twice (talk to two different workers in case one doesn't understand the process) to verify that the check has been fully processed. Otherwise you lose the money if the check is a fake.
Saturday, July 10, 2010
Consumer Law & Policy Blog sees my point
I think this is wrong. When the bank employee tells you that the check is "clear", "good" or "verified" that should be the same as a verbal contract, and if something should come up later with that same check the BANK should hold some, if not all, of the liability. Isn't that the job of the bank, to verify these checks?
This is why we have started the petition at http://www.change.org/petitions/view/create_scam_education_and_awareness_programs asking for a change in these laws and better consumer protection against theses scams. We have also gone out to local high schools to give presentations to the students in order to educate them about these scams, and the banking terms. We need to give not only our teens, but everyone, the tools that they need to protect themselves from these scams.
Shawn Mosch
Co-Founder of ScamVictimsUnited.com
There is strength in numbers!
Find us on Twitter, Facebook and more through http://www.retaggr.com/page/ShawnMosch
Support Scam Victims United by shopping at http://shopittous.blogspot.com/
Sign our petition for Scam Education and Awareness Programs http://www.change.org/petitions/view/create_scam_education_and_awareness_programs
Thursday, July 8, 2010
Prevent overdraft loans
Starting on August 15, your bank cannot charge you overdraft loans unless you authorize them to. This is great news - no more surprise $34 charges for overdrawing your account by $1! Instead, transactions will be declined at no cost if you don't have enough money in your account.
But, your bank or credit union will probably try to convince you to opt-in to overdraft "protection." In 2008, banks made almost $24 billion on overdraft loans, and they're going to miss this cash. To keep it coming, they may try to convince you to enroll in overdraft protection which will trigger a huge fee for each small overdraft. This is a bad deal for you, but a great deal for them.
It's easy to protect yourself -- just do nothing! Don't opt-in to overdraft protection, and make sure your friends and family don't either.
If you think you are likely to overdraw your account, talk to your bank or credit union about another option.
Sign up for a line of credit
Link your checking account to your savings account or credit card
Read more about these options from the Center for Responsible Lending (and check out their funny overdraft video while you're at it).
Your bank may already be asking you to opt-in to an overdraft program. Don't fall for it. Just do nothing when they ask you to opt-in.
Sunday, April 25, 2010
Protect the Consumer
Professor Warren emphasized, we can’t win this fight without everyone’s help. The big banks will always be able to outspend consumers, so it’s up to us to make sure our voices are heard as the Senate considers financial reform legislation. Use your words to make a difference by taking action today!
Monday, April 5, 2010
Giving People a Voice: ShameTheBanks.org
On Monday, March 22nd Shamethebanks.org was launched to give a voice to the millions of American's fighting the banking system to save their homes, lower the interest on a credit card, advocate for student loan rights.
ShameTheBanks.org is a non-commercial website designed to give hope and empowerment to American families. The first release of the website is targeted on helping Homeowners by providing information and knowledge gleaned from multiple sources accessible in one central location. Further releases will target information regarding credit cards and student loans.
It is clear that Wall Street, the Banks, and the Loan Servicers are not concerned about the American Family: they've taken tax dollar bailouts to lobby and persuade elected officials for their own end, reward themselves with bonuses and salaries while Main Street families struggle to remain afloat.
The first release of ShameTheBanks.org carries a message to Congress and the Banking Institutions on the continued lack of assistance to millions of Americans suffering from the troubled economy and a Mortgage Modification Program that still has yet to help the 4 - 6 million Americans that it was proposed to assist.
According to the latest report by Treasury, just over 170,000 mortgages have been permanently modified. The banks and servicers who participated in the program have offered 1,354,350 homeowners trial modifications - a far cry from six million and a mere 12 percent of those have been converted to permanent modifications. The rest? Who knows?
It is estimated that homeowners have been bilked out of close to $4 billion in this way. A technique paid for by taxpayers. If they do get a modification, it can be nothing more than a difference of $20. The banks call that a modification and collect more taxpayer money.
The Congressional Budget Office reported that HAMP won't even spend the full $50 billion it had allocated to helping homeowners. It will only spend $20 billion. That's $5 billion less than the government spent saving the auto industry and only 3 percent of what it spent saving the banks.
With a mission to provide accurate, up to date information regarding Banking and Congressional issues ShameTheBanks.org does not share personal information with third parties. Instead, it offers a community where struggling families can take refuge and find relief (not shame or blame) by reading stories of real people and empowering themselves with resources.
Submitting stories is welcomed and encouraged. Visitors simply register and receive instructions on submitting their story.
About ShameTheBanks.org
ShameTheBanks.org was developed by Huffington Post blogger Richard Zombeck to bring national attention to the modification crisis that continues to plague millions of Americans. Richard is joined by writers with firsthand experience with Loan Modification, Credit Card and Student Loans. After repeated unsuccessful attempts with Congress, Government Agencies, the Banks and many other resources, this group is fed up and instead of giving up, created a community of support and empowerment.
Contact:
Richard Zombeck
ShameTheBanks.org
www.shamethebanks.org
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Financial Reform 101 with Prof. Elizabeth Warren
Americans for Financial Reform invites you to a special online event!
Financial Reform 101 with Prof. Elizabeth Warren
Tuesday, April 6
4:00 – 4:45 pm Eastern time
AFR is hosting this special discussion with Professor Elizabeth Warren and AFR Director Heather Booth for the general public. It will focus on where we stand in the movement for financial reform, and how everyday citizens can get involved in the fight to rein in the big banks and get the economy back on track. We hope you can join us and promote the webinar far and wide!
You and your members can sign up here:
https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/482147880
* Find out about reform efforts in Congress—including the Senate bill currently being debated, and the House bill which passed in December
* Learn why we need a Consumer Financial Protection Agency to protect us from abusive financial products
* Ask Professor Warren and Heather Booth your question about financial reform
* Hear about ways to join the fight around the country and online
Space is limited so sign up now!
Special thanks to the National Consumer Law Center for providing the webinar software. Please contact Sarah Byrnes, Sally Brzozowski or Chris Bowers with questions.
Monday, March 29, 2010
ShameTheBanks.org
Remember when you were a kid and you did something naughty? Maybe it wasn’t as strictly against the rules as something like stealing—maybe you picked your neighbor’s flowers without permission, or you chalked a rude word on the sidewalk. Your mother would say, “Shame on you!” And you would feel ashamed, somewhere inside, that your mother did not think well of you. Shame, coming from someone you loved and respected, caused you to change your ways. If only it worked that way with banks!
There’s a new website called $hameTheBanks.org, and that’s exactly what they’re trying to do. The organizers –and the folks who post their stories on the site –are pointing a big fat finger at banks saying “Shame on you!” to the big corporations that banks have become. Whether it will cause banks to change their ways remains to be seen, but it can certainly provide a forum for homeowners and consumers to discuss what’s really going on with their mortgages, their credit, and their financial futures.
ShameTheBanks.org is a great non-commercial location for consumers to share their stories about fighting the banking system, lowering their interest rates, or advocating for student loan rights. It is also a resource, providing homeowners with mortgage and loan information drawn from across the Internet and beyond, all in one location.
Founder (and Huff Post blogger) Richard Zombeck had this to say about his new site:
It is clear that Wall Street, the banks, and the loan servicers are not concerned about the American family. They've taken tax dollar bailouts to lobby and persuade elected officials for their own end, reward themselves with bonuses and salaries while Main Street families struggle to remain afloat.
It is his hope that $hameTheBanks.org will provide accurate, up to date information regarding banking and congressional issues, like how much has been allocated by the Congressional Budget Office to help homeowners ($50 billion) and how much has actually been spent on that cause (not even half that much). Did you know that only TWELVE PERCENT of the almost 1.5 million homeowners who received trial loan modifications later received permanent ones?
Twelve percent is barely a drop in the bucket.
So stop by $hameTheBanks.org and tell your story. You will surely find a community of support and empowerment, not one of shame or blame on the consumer. Help raise a cry of “Shame on you!” to the banking industry and find information and, perhaps, some refuge and relief.
Denise Richardson can be reached at www.Givemebackmycredit.com
Sunday, March 28, 2010
What are they thinking!?!?!?
The article says
Banks have already offered smartphone applications that let customers check balances, transfer funds and make payments.
Yes, they do. I have even heard some banks say that they can send you an email to alert you when a check has cleared. If you read this blog on a regular basis, you will know that I have a big problem with the banks using the term "cleared" to customers. Our bank told us that our cashier's check was "cleared" and then one week later they called us to tell us that it was counterfeit.
Back to the article that I was talking about. It goes on to explain how this new technology would work.
A bank customer takes a photo of the front of the check and the back of the check that has been signed by the customer. The photo gets sent to the bank through its mobile application. In most cases, funds are in the customers account immediately.
Wait a minute . . . immediately!?!?! So now if someone were to take a picture of a cashier's check, they could start using that money right away? What about waiting for the check to be verified at a legitimate check? What about protecting the banking customer's funds by holding the check until it has passed through the system? Oh wait, they don't do that now with paper checks so why would they do it with electronic image checks.
Here is the ONLY positive side I could see about this. There are some people that have taken a cashier's check that they wanted verified into the bank and have been arrested for presenting a counterfeit check. With this technology they could send a picture of the check into the bank instead of actually going into a branch location. Of course, if the check is found to be counterfeit the bank could probably send the police to the person's house to arrest them for trying to pass a counterfeit check.
More banks are expected to add the feature, especially as consumers demand 24 hour banking.
I would think that those same customers who are demanding 24 hour banking would also demand that the bank is looking out for their best interest. How about giving us accurate information on when the money from a check is truly ours to use and spend without any worries? How about telling the customer that the funds are available, but it could take 10 business days or more for the check to be verified as legitimate. That is what this bank customer demands.
Sunday, February 28, 2010
It starts tomorrow! The Call for Financial Reform!
Tell Congress to Hold Banks Accountable
Join Americans for Financial Reform and our allies around the country in our first National Senate Call-in Week, March 1 – 4, 2010.
- Crack down on irresponsible and reckless behavior by big Wall Street banks and hold them accountable;
- Protect consumers by policing unfair and deceptive practices by credit card companies, mortgage companies, and predatory lenders, and create a strong and independent consumer financial protection agency to get the job done well;
- Close the loopholes that allow secret and risky ‘shadow market’ deals where big banks enjoy the winnings of gambling with our money, and then expect us to pay when they lose.
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Tell the FDIC to rein in Banks' reckless behavior
We know that the greedy, reckless behavior of banks and Wall Street titans created an economic meltdown that has cost millions of American jobs and trillions of dollars in lost wealth. Wall Street bankers continue to gamble with our money, reward themselves with huge bonuses when they win, and take billions in taxpayer bailouts when they lose. The system is rigged: heads they win, tails we lose.The FDIC wants to help change this. But they need to hear from us.
A while back, AFFIL members flooded the Federal Reserve Board with comments about why credit cards needed to be reformed. Together with other activists we generated over 60,000 comments -- and the Fed issued new rules. Later, Congress followed suit and passed the Credit CARD Act which will go into effect this Monday.
Now, we can send the same strong message by sending comments to another government agency, the FDIC. The FDIC---which insures bank deposits---is trying to do something about reckless Wall Street gambling.
The FDIC wants banks that hand out big bonuses for risky behavior to pay higher insurance premiums. Just as a reckless driver pays more for auto insurance, these banks would pay more if they insist on rewarding recklessness. It's only common sense.
The FDIC is taking public comments on the proposed new rule - but the deadline to submit a comment is today, February 18. And banks are pushing hard against it. Many of the comments so far are from bankers. The FDIC needs to hear from regular Americans who got stuck with the bill when these bankers wrecked the economy. Can you let the FDIC know you support the new rule by submitting a comment?
The FDIC takes these public comments very seriously, but usually only receives them from industry insiders. But this is a rule that would affect all of us. The FDIC needs to know that regular folks are watching and that we want accountability for the risky behavior that cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
Go to Americans for Fairness in Lending to have your voice heard
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
Cyber - Education/Awareness
You offer internet banking because it is cost effective for the bank and convenient for the customer.
And when you complete a risk assessment, you review E-SIGN rules and logon credentials and disclosures you give your customers. But have you evaluated your customer awareness program? The FFIEC authentication guidance issued several years ago tells us "Financial institutions have made, and should continue to make, efforts to educate their customers. Because customer awareness is a key defense against fraud and identity theft, financial institutions should evaluate their consumer education efforts to determine if additional steps are necessary." It goes on to say that management should both implement a customer awareness program and evaluate its effectiveness periodically.
Banks are being sued by their customers when a loss is incurred via internet banking. While some banks look to Reg E for guidance, it isn't always there, and it won't apply when your customer isn't a consumer. Have you taught your customers how to act and react when there is a threat? In this webinar we will discuss:
What should be in your customer awareness program?
How to educate customers about phishing;
What you need to do when a phishing attack occurs;
Is mobile banking safer than using a PC?
Are customers required to practice safe surfing?
What is safe surfing?
Is multifactor authentication "required" for all customers?
What is a strong password, and how often should it be changed?
And much more.
About the speaker:
Andy Zavoina Mr. Andy Zavoina, CRCM, is a consultant with the Glia Group, best known for its involvement with BankersOnline.com.
Andy has been in finance and banking for 22 years. Over 20 years were with a holding company with two Central Texas community banks that had $534 million in assets, 89 branches spanning Texas and nearly 500 ATMs. After starting in loan workouts, Mr. Zavoina has been a consumer, commercial and real estate lender and managed those departments as well as being the banks first Webmaster. He was responsible for compliance- management, -auditing, and -training for both banks.
Andy is a past Chairman of the American Bankers Association's Compliance Executive Committee. He was the 2003 recipient of the American Bankers Association's Distinguished Service Award for his involvement and accomplishments in the field of regulatory
compliance management. He currently serves on the Editorial Advisory Board for the ABA's Compliance Magazine, Compliance Action magazine, is a member of the ABA's Compliance School Board and is a BankersOnline Guru. He also served on the
Texas Bankers Association's Compliance Committee.
He is a graduate of the ABA National Commercial Lending School, National Compliance and National Graduate Compliance School and is a Certified Regulatory Compliance Manager with the Institute of Certified Bankers. He has written numerous articles and
lectured on compliance, the use of the Internet and technology as a tool, as well as compliance in cyberspace to local, state and national associations. Internet policies and other compliance related programs are made available on his personal Web site.
Monday, January 11, 2010
Bank of America
Tomorrow a group from the PICO National Network will be meeting with Bank Of America executives for a face to face conversation about the problems that they have caused for so many people. They need your help . . . if you have a Bank of America story, go to http://action.seiu.org/page/s/bofameeting to submit your story. The more stories that they have, the more that they can try to hold Bank of America accountable for.
Saturday, January 9, 2010
Is there a banker in the house?
Paperless Fed - A Game Changer for Financial Institutions
Soon the Federal Reserve will be all electronic when it comes to processing checks. No longer will the Federal receive paper cash letters or send financial institutions their daily in-clearing items. The same applies to returned items. It will not be long before the Federal Reserve will make an announcement (very similar to ACH tape decision made in 1993) informing financial institutions that all check related transactions will be transmitted electronically. If your institution is unable to receive your daily files electronically, you will need to designate a processor or correspondent institution to receive your items on your behalf.
This program will address the legal, regulatory, technical and operational impacts of the Fed's elimination of all but one Check Processing Center including but not limited to:
The impact on Funds Availability and bank disclosures (with one processing center, all checks become local checks)
The impact on return items (paper and electronic)
Operational and technical impact on financial institutions that are not image capable
Forward Cash Letters
Return Cash Letters
Presentment by the Federal Reserve and Other financial institutions
Transportation Costs
Federal Reserve Processing Fees
What happens to same day settlement?
What are the processing and other considerations of Non-Cash Items (Collection Items and Foreign Checks)?
What do you do with Bonds, Coupons and Securities?
Bank Float Schedules?
http://calendar.bollearningconnect.com/main.php?view=event&eventid=1262627344036
Here is my question . . . will this help to stop more counterfeit cashier's check scams? In the past, what I have been told is that the reason that the banks do not find out that the check is counterfeit for a week or more is because the paper check still has to go through all of the normal processing channels . . . go to the correct clearing house . . . but if it is all done electronically, wouldn't that speed up that process? And if that is so, wouldn't they be able to catch that these checks are counterfeit sooner? (and if so, how much sooner?)
Thursday, December 31, 2009
Scam fighting - 2010
One of the ways that we plan to do this is with events called Scam Jam. These events are the brainchild of Chuck Whitlock an investigative reporter, author and speaker. If you have ever been to a Home and Garden Show or Wedding Expo, imagine that same experience and setting focusing on scams and fraud. There are presentations, workshops and speakers on various topics such as
ID Theft
Internet Scams
Investment Fraud
Health Care Scams
Bank Fraud
Elder Fraud
Charity Scams
Mortgage Fraud
Phishing Scams
Credit Card and Check Schemes
Contractor Fraud
Food/Supplement Fraud
Mail Fraud
Presenters include local media personalities sharing their best investigative reporting stories that expose scams, law enforcement groups, lawyers and legal experts, and even former scam victims sharing their story of victimization to recovery. Beyond the workshops and presentations, people attending a Scam Jam can interact with Consumer Protection groups in the Exhibitors Room. These professionals can assist them with their scam and fraud related questions, and offer then resources to assist them recovery efforts. You may even be able to purchase one of Chuck Whitlock’s investigative books that exposes scams or books written by other presenters.
Scam Jam is a one stop shop for education and resources on scams, fraud and consumer protection.
We are currently scheduling dates for Scam Jam events for 2010. If your school, business or company would like to host a Scam Jam at your facility, or if you are a professional in the area of scam fighting and consumer protection that would like to be a part of a Scam Jam in your area, please contact us.
Shawn Mosch
Co-Founder of ScamVictimsUnited.com
There is strength in numbers!
Find us on Twitter, Facebook and more through
http://www.retaggr.com/page/ShawnMosch
Support Scam Victims United by shopping at
http://shopittous.blogspot.com/
Sunday, December 20, 2009
Detecting counterfeit checks
Automatic systems for signature verification can successfully rely on a shared image archive and improve customer service and satisfaction by enabling banks and retailers to proactively inform customers of potential fraud. Similarly, check stock verification software can be used in a shared image archive environment to protect financial institutions against the fastest-growing source of fraudulent activity surrounding checks today, responsible for 28 percent of all check-related losses in banks - counterfeit checks.
The American Bankers Association reports that attempted check fraud in banks nationwide surpassed $4.3 billion in 2002, and continues to be a major concern as criminals gain access to more sophisticated equipment and develop new tactics to attack institutions with weak defenses. This newest addition to Parascript’s anti-fraud product suite will help banks and financial institutions automatically detect suspect checks passing through the system. The full suite of products will address altered and counterfeit checks as well as random and skilled forgery.
“Parascript is committed to applying our advanced pattern recognition technology to all facets of the growing problem of check fraud,” said Mike Fenton, Parascript’s vice president of Total Recognition Solutions. “First with CheckPlus® andSignatureXpert®, and now with CheckStockXpert, Parascript is setting the pace for enhancing and streamlining fraud detection. As we have in the past, we will continue to advance our technology to combat any and all fraudulent activity against financial institutions, retailers and their customers.”
CheckStockXpert uses advanced pattern recognition to verify the full image of a check as well as preprinted objects on a check including headers of check number, date, payee, dollar amount, dollar sign, memo, payor block and payor bank field. This software scrutinizes the placement of each item and its relative distances between pairs of blocks, allowing banks to immediately identify even the slightest variations of a check. Multiplemethods of verification—including quantitative analysis, pattern recognition, analytical and geometrical analysis and neural networks—further increase accuracy. Asa result, banks and financial institutions can automatically detect copies or imitations of checks passing through the system.
Parascript’s three-pronged defense puts a stop to even the most sophisticated check-writing criminals.
CheckPlus, Parascript’s hallmark check recognition software, already used by leading financial institutions captures multiple fields on a check, including payee line, check number, dollar amount and date. Having this key information helps enhance positive pay or other fraud detection applications. Parascript’s signature verification software, SignatureXpert, uses the most advanced pattern recognition technology to detect random and skilled signature forgery. These two software products combined with CheckStockXpert help banks and financial institutions build a solid defense against all types of fraud.
Parascript’s suite of anti-fraud products is immediately available. More information is available at www.parascript.com.
About Parascript, LLC
Parascript’s Total Recognition® technology converts paper-based information into computer-usable data. It is the first complete technology that recognizes all character types — cursive, handprint and machine print — on all forms. Its unique capabilities allow organizations using forms to capture customer information to dramatically reduce their data entry expenses. With Total Recognition technology, companies can turn handwritten and print data, including legacy data, into electronic information that can be used to power web-based offerings and other marketing initiatives. Total Recognition technology is available via a number of channels: as software development kits, through Parascript’s on-line services, through onsite custom solutions, and from Parascript’s partners.
Thursday, November 19, 2009
Phishing scams hitting hard
The Community Driven Credit Union in Pittsfield Township has frozen the bank accounts of 20 to 30 of its customers in recent days after they provided sensitive information to suspected scam artists.
The phishing scam - involving e-mails and text messages - appears to be hitting Washtenaw County hard since last week.
Many people have reported receiving the messages, which warn them their accounts have been frozen. They're directed to call a number and are then prompted to provide bank and debit card information.
The majority of the messages appear to reference the Community Driven Credit Union. Kevin Finneran, president and CEO of the credit union, said even his wife and daughter received the text messages.
The scam also appears to be impacting the Chelsea State Bank. Michigan State Police Sgt. Tony Cuevas said today at least 3 people have reported similar scams involving the Chelsea bank.
One man said he received an automated message that his bank account was frozen, and when he called, he was directed to enter his 16-digit debit card number, Cuevas said.
On Tuesday, the president of the Ypsilanti Area Federal Credit Union said the credit union has heard from at least 50 customers who received suspicious messages.
Finneran said his credit union has talked to 50 to 60 customers, and 20 to 30 of them provided their banking information by computer or phone to the scam artists. Their accounts were frozen, and new cards are being issued.
Finneran said the bulk of those who received the text messages appear to be Sprint customers. He said the credit union has spoken to the Pittsfield Township Police Department and state Attorney General's office, and also is spreading the word about the scam to help customers avoid being victimized.
"It probably started last Thursday or Friday," Finneran said of the calls. "If people provided information, we're immediately taking steps to secure their accounts. We're also doing everything we can to make people aware."
Barrie Kiser, marketing manager for the credit union, said the e-mail can appear convincing because it has a screen shot of the credit union's home banking system. But the address is wrong, and the information it requests to log in also is different.
Officials at the banks stressed this week that they never gather information from ttheir customers via text or e-mail, so customers should never respond to such messages.
Anyone who received the messages and provided information should immediately contact their bank or credit union and local police department.
The Anti-Phishing Working Group also offers some advice on what to do if you've been scammed and how to report it.
Thursday, November 5, 2009
Check Fraud: Protecting Your Bank and Its Customers
Many of the scams are obvious, but many are presented in such a way that the would-be victim (your customer) is more easily tricked into believing the claims of the fraud artist.
Each presentment of a fraudulent check presents potential problems for 1) the bank of first deposit, 2) the customer presenting the check, and 3) the paying bank. Knowing how to detect and reject bogus checks can protect both your bank and your customers. Knowing how to handle fraudulent checks that make it "under the radar" can save your bank from significant losses.
WHY?
This program is designed to help your bank recognize the signs of fraudulent check activity. Trained bank personnel can help save gullible customers from themselves by preventing the checks from being deposited. Keeping the customer out of trouble means avoiding problems for your bank, too. Responding appropriately when a fraudulent check is presented for payment or has been charged back to your bank can minimize the losses your bank will suffer.
CONTENT
Upon completion of the program participants will understand:
how Regulation CC helps make counterfeit check fraud "profitable"
how common check fraud scams work
how customer behavior can "red flag" a check scam
physical clues of counterfeit checks
the case for check verification
the arguments against verification
fatal errors in check verification
when a hold can be placed, and for how long
the "reasonable cause" exception hold
why holds often aren't enough
counterfeits and the "midnight deadline"
how to handle late returns
how local clearinghouse rules may affect you
what NOT to tell a depositor about check clearing
what you MUST try to make customers understand
what to do when fraud is suspected
why customer education is your most effective tool
WHO?
The program is designed for teller supervisors and trainers, customer contact personnel, and anyone involved in your fraudulent check stop-loss efforts.
Sunday, October 25, 2009
Vocabulary Lesson - Clear
I wanted to continue on this to show why I believe the wording used by the banking industry is so misleading and why it is so easy for so many people to become victims of counterfeit cashier's check scams.
So let's say you receive a cashier's check from someone and you are concerned if it is a valid check or not. You want to receive the payment you are entitled to, and you do not want to end up liable for money from a bad check. This is the case with many people who become victims of counterfeit cashier's check scams. Many of them do not know how to make sure that a check is legitimate, so they bring it to their bank. They trust that the people who work with forms of currency every day will know how to make sure that this check is legitimate.
If the bank teller tells you that "the check will be clear in 24 hours" what does that really mean, and why is that confusing to the banking customer? Let's take a look at the definition of the word clear.
free from blemishes; unhampered by restriction or limitation; unencumbered by debts or charges; free from obstruction
"clear." Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2009.
Merriam-Webster Online. 25 October 2009
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clear
Banking: collection of funds on which a check is drawn, and payment of those funds to the holder of the check
"clear" Business Dictionaries from AllBusiness.com. 2009.
http://www.allbusiness.com/glossaries/clear/4949892-1.html
From reading these definitions one would think that when the bank tells you that an item, such as a cashier's check, is "clear" that would mean that you are free to use that money with no worry . . . it should be unhampered by restrictions and funds should have been collected from the bank on which the check was drawn according to the definitions I found online from reliable sources. So then why is it that banking employees will tell their customers that the check is "clear" in 24 hours, but then contact them a week later to say that the check was found to be counterfeit? You cannot un-ring a bell. If it is clear one day, it should still be clear a week later.
Maybe the real problem is not the word "clear" but the fact that it takes on average 7 - 10 business days for a check to go through the entire clearing process, but many bank's train their employees to tell people that cashier's checks are "clear" in 24 hours. If it is a legitimate cashier's check, then there would be no problems since it would be drawn against funds of the bank itself, but these checks are counterfeit and they are very good counterfeits, so good that they fool bank employees and bank managers on a daily basis.
So to make the vocabulary fit the situation, wouldn't it be better for bank employees to inform their customers that "it could take over 10 days for the check to clear". I know that the bank that we are currently with does this because I asked them before I opened an account with them. Test your bank out. Go in and ask them if you brought in a cashier's check how long would it take for it to clear. If they tell you 24 hours, you might want to rethink who you are trusting with your money.
Shawn Mosch
Co-Founder of ScamVictimsUnited.com
There is strength in numbers!
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